Discuss: Should MTV Be Punished for Marijuana Joke?
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Immediately after watching what appeared to be a last second decision gone awry, I knew people would be talking about it the next day -- especially because it's MTV, because it's a show designed for teens and pre-teens and because Seth Rogen and James Franco kinda made pot smoking "look cool." In an article over at AOL News, Franco admitted that MTV put them up to it -- "even supplying the script, the fake marijuana and the fake joint - then had a last-second change of heart about the bit." That "change of heart" turned into the camera remaining on a wide shot of the stage while Rogen and Franco took hits off the fake joint, coughing in between. Of course, even though the camera was wide, we still heard everything being said -- and could still see the awkward, uncomfortable faces in the crowd, some of whom (like Will Smith) brought their young children with them as dates.
From the article: "MTV wrote it! ... Then backstage there was this big commotion: 'You guys can't say that,"' Franco said. "It says right in the script: 'Lights fake joint."' Of course, this shouldn't take anything away from The Pineapple Express (which I heard was absolutely hysterical and am dying to see), because it's rated R and doesn't pretend to be something it's not. However, the film's green band trailer makes sure not to use the word marijuana or show either character actually putting a joint to their mouth to smoke (going so far as to change the word 'weed' in the trailer song to 'seed') -- so, obviously, it's an issue with the MPAA.
Should it be an issue with the FCC? Did MTV make a huge mistake with this bit, or should they be applauded for taking the comedic risk? (Check out the video after the jump and let us know ...)
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(Page 1)2. Not only should they not apologize, they should show it up close. Marijuana is no worse then drinking or smoking. Something shown on TV on a daily basis.
Posted at 11:39PM on Jun 2nd 2008 by Pudie
3. Thing is, as bad as smoking and drinking are, they are legal and that prevents the death of thousands of humans every year in the so called "war on drugs". So next time you think about promoting it, you remember some of those people who die across the border to feed America's love for recreational drugs.
Posted at 11:49PM on Jun 2nd 2008 by Mr. R
4. So Mr. R, should we be angry with ourselves? Seems to me we should be angry at the people who insist on perpetuating the "war on drugs." You know, the people actually doing the killing.
And I agree, there really was no joke there, wide shot or not.
Posted at 12:02AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by facebookfake
5. I hate the FCC and really don't care what happens to MTV, but like Malren said, it wasn't funny at all. It was embarrassing. They only people that could have thought that was comedic are either cretinous or High School potheads. I would applaud MTV if they left comedy to people that are funny and just played videos instead of having meaningless award shows. Best Movie So Far This Summer? Its early June. I bet they thought that was hilarious as well.
Posted at 11:53PM on Jun 2nd 2008 by Arctic Monkeys
6. Let me see if I get this straight... years ago the FCC got pissed cause Janet's tit came flying out on national TV during the superbowl.
Ok, so tits are bad.
Now MTV, which is not exactly Nickelodeon with their content, throws an award show with almost as much tits as Janet (http://www.cinematical.com/photos/2008-mtv-movie-awards/835455/ , http://www.cinematical.com/photos/2008-mtv-movie-awards/835466/) and we're supposed to be pissed cause there is a joke about weed in it? I just don't get it.
It seems like people just want to get pissed off about something. If I was a parent I'd be more pissed off about Meghan Fox then a joke about weed (which kids are unlikely to understand compared to tits, which they most certainly will understand).
Either way, I think it should be obvious to anybody that MTV has lost the last shred of any credibility they had left. The whole network is just a giant joke/disaster.
Posted at 12:10AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Matt
7. You've got the FCC's stance on tits all wrong. Nipples are bad. Tits are fine.
God I hate the FCC.
Posted at 12:21AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by facebookfake
8. Controversy over pot smoking is silly. FWIW, never used pot, never will and don't get why it's illegal.
Posted at 12:18AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by YouFaceTheTick
9. The FCC cannot do anything to MTV. MTV is a cable channel, not broadcast over the air like ABC, CBS, NBC or FOX. MTV is a subscriber channel. Viewers pay to have it. Unlike the aforementioned networks, which are available for free over the air waves.
Posted at 12:23AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by DanFan
10. Um, isn't this the same MTV that peddles alcohol abuse, verbal and physical abuse, and sexual promiscuity. Once again marijuana use is being held to a double standard. http://screencrush.com/2008/06/02/mtv-has-second-thoughts-about-showing-seth-rogan-and-james-franco-smoke-weed-goes-back-to-showing-people-getting-drunk-verbally-and-physically-abusive-and-having-lots-of-sex/
Posted at 12:33AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Neal
11. Yeah, it wasn't funny, but I can't believe people are more upset with their kids being exposed to bud but totally fine with Wayne and Garth's "No Country for Old Balls."
Posted at 1:11AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by mezzanine
12. The FCC is a non-issue. MTV is not a broadcast channel. Cable channels -voluntarily- adhere to a code of decency as opposed to the broadcast channels who are bound to one.
In any case, does anyone still care about MTV's bad examples? They'll show rampant use of alcohol, smoking and even meth/heroin use but all of a sudden we're supposed to care about weed, one of the least addictive and harmful drugs? Please.
Posted at 3:10AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Matt Kulka
13. I really didn't care until I heard that Will Smith brought his kid to the show
I'm a college kid. It seems like everyone is smoking. Teachers joke about it, and while it's wrong, it's sadly become something everyday and expected around here. So when I hear MTV has people smoking on it, it just seems common place
I've given up caring about who smokes. I don't, which is all I need for me. What other people do is their own business. I won't subject myself to smoking and avoid people who do. I control my environment to avoid it. And since I'm adult I just expect other adults to pick and choose what they subject themselves to as well
But when it comes to kids I guess it's different. Parents are the choosers of what their children are subjected to. And when a parent allows their kid to watch a TV show (or brings them TO the show) I think they are doing it with the expectation that their child won't be subjected to pot smoking in any form or fashion. And MTV violated that by allowing pot smoking to be portrayed as "cool" when they should have known the target audience of their show
I'm tired of people claiming pot isn't bad. Just because something isn't bad FOR YOU doesn't mean it can't cause harm to others. Many people have suffered from it and many bad things have come out of it for individuals beside yourselves. And the younger you are, and the more ill-informed you are about it, the worse it can be
I'm not against a bad pot joke. I'm against a portrayal of pot smoking as "cool" to an audience that is succeptable to those exact pressures in their currently developing social life
I wish MTV hadn't done it, but they did, and I hope that any kid who did see it has access to the proper resources to understand the issue beyond how MTV portrayed smoking to be
-Kevin
Posted at 5:23AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Kevin
14. Well kids should never watch MTV and their parents should've allow them to watch it. It's more or less garbage.
Posted at 9:04AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Ryan
15. This is a different Kevin responding to Kevin's earlier remarks....
Welcome to the real world. If you don't want your kids exposed to things like drug, alcohol, sex, etc. than you had better do a damn good job of sheltering them and keeping them blind to their surroundings. These are issues that are increasingly more prevalent in our society. The only way for parents to deal with it is to educate their children and let them know what they expect of their kids. A lot of my friends in high school and college used drugs (particularly marijuana) but since I understood the issue I chose not too. Its ridiculous for parents to blame TV channels, ads, movies, etc. for how their children turn out. Those are influences of course, but study after study shows that the #1 influence and the most important factor in a childs behavior is the level of discourse and interaction they have with their parents. So if MTV wants to show a 45 second joke about weed then fine, if parents are doing their jobs then they shouldn't have anything to worry about.
Posted at 9:20AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Kevin
16. And their parents should NOT allow them to watch it... I meant to say.
Posted at 9:05AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Ryan
17. MTV is still under regulations by the FCC, hence they have to follow the commercial limit on their children's channels (Nick, etc).
http://www.fcc.gov/parents/commercials.html
I work for MTV Networks, so I have some insight into FCC regulations on our networks.
The fact of the matter is that the program was rated TV-14 D,L,S,V so the warning was there for parents.
Also the Superbowl issue was such BS, the FCC has to get their head out of thier ass...
Matt Kulka, can you please provide an example where MTV shows "rampant use of meth/heroin"? I know it is shown on the channel, but only in documentary/new format (i.e. True Life, which is a documentary series and can show that type of content, because it portrays the affects it has on people, etc, and does not glamorize it...
Posted at 10:07AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by mike
18. Wait... MTV still exists? I thought it was replaced years ago by some channel filled with crappy reality shows. At least that's what happened on my cable system.
Posted at 10:08AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Josh
19. I have no issues with the pot jokes and the whoel feel sorry for the people in the war ond rugs is they don't call it a war for fun it's bad and people involved knew it would be abd before they got involved so I don't feel a damn bit sorry for them.
Posted at 10:11AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Aaron
20. MTV has been chicken-hearted ever since they were playing Buggles videos. Maybe a new presidential administration can bring some sense into our national drug laws.
Posted at 11:13AM on Jun 3rd 2008 by Richard von Busack









1. The real problem is, kids or not, wide shot or not, *it wasn't funny*.
At *ALL*. There was no comedy. It wasn't a "joke." It was just stupid. The least MTV could have done was commit to the dumb joke but they made it 40 times worse with that stupid wide shot.
The whole thing was stupid on every level.
Posted at 11:37PM on Jun 2nd 2008 by Malren